Rhett Aultman Engineer, athlete, and mystic atheist

13Jun/116

Yes, Virginia, I am an atheist Pagan

This is, with some hope, the first of a few posts I'm going to write on this topic.  I say that because I've started to write various posts about atheism in Paganism.  They've all had various reasons that they've come up short in my eyes...one seems like it needs another post to come first and provide context...another became too bogged down in the history of atheism in various world religions...etc.  None of them really seemed to get down to the crux of the matter.

I'm an atheist.  I'm also Pagan.  It's actually not that hard to reconcile.

At the very beginning, it's worth making something quite clear -- there is really no rulebook for what makes a Pagan.  It's a term that seems to encompass a rather wide and diverse set of people.  Generally speaking, Thelemites and Wiccans and heathens all seemingly share a common set of social concerns and social infrastructure even if they don't share cosmology or practices.  The reasons for hanging together under this umbrella term aren't within the scope of the article, nor is the history of the term.  I'm not out to speak about how we got to this point.  The fact of the matter is that we're here.  And what is Paganism?  It is, effectively, a culture that provides a web of common reference and language for a bunch of different people with different beliefs and practices to hang together.  Paganism, therefore, has no particular theological or religious test.

I actually feel like I could rest the defense there, but I won't.  It'd make for a really empty blog post, and outside of that, I've looked on the web and seen a lot of static about Pagan atheism.  Some of it comes from atheists that, in my opinion, needlessly deride atheist Pagans for what they consider to be unacceptable levels of religiosity; most of it, however, comes from Pagans who consider belief in the existence of at least one deity to be a necessary quality of a Pagan.

But let's break some things down.  Theism is generally accepted to be typified by making a claim of the existence of at least one deity.  There are a series of statements invoked in the statement "At least one deity exists."  For example, it requires a founding definition of "deity."  It also, however, requires a founding definition of "existence."  Sitting around and indulging in a discussion about what it means to exist would, honestly, turn into a series of blog posts that would end up rehashing ontology in general.  I'm not going to attempt an iron-clad definition of "existence."  Generally speaking, though, one of my rules for saying that something exists involves my ability to demonstrate that existence to others in convincing ways, particularly when those "others" may hold views that wouldn't be biased towards accepting that the object in question exists.  This actually flows forth not from some serious position of modernism but from the pretty practical meat-and-potatoes way that I, and many other humans, handle experiencing strange new phenomenon.  If I see something strange, I draw others' attention to it to see if they see it and what they make of it.

Of course, over a lifetime of taking this practical attitude to things, including an admission, upon first encountering something unusual, that I could be hallucinating or seriously confused, I've developed certain rules-of-thumb to help speed up my conclusions.  For example, I've found that most things which exist can have machines built which demonstrate and exploit that existence.  For example, there was a time when HIV's role in AIDS was not as well-accepted as it is today, and the development of drugs which directly assault HIV, and which significantly extend the lives of HIV+ people, has been a major nail in that coffin.  Another guideline is observing the biases of those who claim a certain thing exists.  There are a bunch of these other sorts of guidelines, and a lot of people who are simply being sensible use them all the time.

And, putting a few of these together, I do come to the conclusion that no deity exists.  Now, we can make some fuzzy definitions of "deity," and there are a few that I might semi-comfortably consider interesting and useful, but I don't grant them the status of, as Feynman once put it, "really, really there."  They're not beings in this universe.  They're not beings in another universe.  They're not on another "dimension" or "plane" or "level" or "realm of ideals," and the existence of those things is also something I do not accept.  If I list the properties of deities, existence isn't among them.  That alone is enough to qualify me as an atheist, but I will, for good measure, mention some other things that I don't think exist.  I don't recognize the existence of vital life-force, or chi, or ki, or "energy," or any of the other myriad terms used in new age and Pagan circles.  I don't recognize the existence of spirits, of demons, or of angels.  I have no reason to conclude that I have a soul that will continue on after my death, which is to say that I also don't believe in an afterlife.  There are a lot of things common to the lives of Pagans that I don't recognize in the ontological pseudo-class of being, as Feynman once put it, "really, really there."

And yet, if you find yourself blanching at this, or you're ready to fire off a comment and tell me I'm not a "real" Pagan, at least let me tell you my response up front.  Stop.  You're being obsessed with ontology.

A really wise friend of mine has this great shtick he does about how he'll never tell a child Santa Claus isn't real.  It's really a brilliant bit, and I actually love hearing him do it at dinners and parties.  Essentially, it goes like this...Santa Claus is more recognizable by more people than your average real person, people know who he is and what he does, people get gifts from him all the time, etc, etc.  In fact, if you walked down the street in a red suit giving out gifts, everyone would call you Santa Claus.  So, of course Santa is real.  He might be more real than most people!

And, of course, this is delivered with a little bit of humor...the sort that says "Ha ha...only serious!"  He, of course, does leave out some really important details that throw spanners in the works for Santa Claus.  For example, we've never found his workshop nor evidence of purchasing the raw materials for toys.  His employees are elves, and nobody's found those (seriously...not even one crazy whistleblower).  The FAA has never received a request for an air traffic corridor radioed in from a flying sleigh.  Possibly most tragically of all...there are lots of good girls and boys that Santa somehow misses.  Most people would agree that this compounds together with lots of other information to suggest that, at a minimum, Santa has yet to be found and his existence would be highly contradictory.

But the whole Santa thing is still a really apt way for explaining how I deal with things like deities and the other ooky-spooky subjects we lump together into Paganism.  See...I remember being 13 years old and, because I didn't feel I had any popularity to defend, I played Santa Claus when my Boy Scout troop sang Christmas carols down at the old folks home.  I had a really freaking good time putting on the red suit and going "Ho ho ho!" and giving out candy canes and hugs.  Most of the people at that nursing home were beyond delighted to see me.  I mean, they were delighted that a bunch of fresh-faced Boy Scouts came to sing for them, but if I'd been passing out candy canes wearing my uniform, it wouldn't have been half as much fun for me or for them.  I do suspect that there may have been one or two of them may have been suffering from dementia and possibly really thought I was Santa, but I have no doubt that most of them called me "Santa" because it was fun to do so.  And it was fun for me.  Everything was more fun for having the living symbol of generosity and happy childhood memories there.  Yep.  Santa isn't real, but I was once Santa for a night, and it made the night meaningful.

And that's why I honestly feel that, even if I'm the atheist, it's everyone else who's being really philosophically uptight.  I might not think that Hermes is "real", but that doesn't mean that I can't aspire to be like Hermes, make art that represents Hermes, talk about Hermes, do things and claim Hermes did them, dress like Hermes, act like Hermes, get other people to call me Hermes, or be Hermes...for myself or others...for a time.  Just because something isn't real doesn't mean that you can't experience it.  If things that didn't really exist had no power, I sincerely doubt that people would go to see Batman or Iron Man movies.  People love connecting with those complex symbols of heroism.  People just also know that you can't shine a bat-shaped searchlight when you're getting mugged and that you can't trade in Stark Industries on the NYSE.  Flynn does not live.  Flynn Lives still means at least another $15 from millions of people.

This is generally the place where someone will invoke a sort of fall-back cosmology popular within the Pagan community: the Jungian concept of archetypes and the collective unconscious.  I've never really been a fan of seeing things that way, either.  To be honest, it feels like another attempt at making the gods (or magickal energy, or other such stuff) "real."  Hermes no longer lives atop Mt. Olympus but now lives inside the collective unconscious.  The problem is that both Mt. Olympus and the collective unconscious are artifacts of a mythology.  This shifts the mythological location, but it doesn't really structurally change things.  The other problem I have is that, while we have physical science for discussing phenomena which exist in the world, there is no "science of archetypes."  Archetypes are, in a sense, their own mythology...albeit an interesting and compelling one and one that may be a little less supernatural, but as a mythology goes, I don't reach for it often.  I also must confess that I don't experience gods or other mystic concepts as being part of my psyche, nor do I use the modality of ritual in such a heavy psychological fashion.

Of course, archetypes are handy descriptors.  I will give them that.  It's hard to not think about any character without bringing archetypes in.  I prefer to see my psyche as mine, full of its own funny idiosyncratic quirks, and to simply explore, as freely as possible, what a deity or a concept or a character means to me.  I don't need to hang that on an external framework to do so...at least most of the time.

All of this is to say that I find the question of the gods being "real," and indeed discussions of their ontological nature in general, somewhat silly.  It doesn't matter if they're "real" if they're meaningful.  So, yes, I am an atheist because I don't believe in the existence of a deity.  I'm also, however, a Pagan, because I have a personal relationship to the same things that Pagans have relationships to.  Once you get past the word games of ontology, being an atheist Pagan isn't so silly after all.

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  1. Thank you for this post, Rhett. I think it’s really important for those of us in the Pagan/Heathen/Witch/Alternative Faith community to communicate the various ways we practice. I think it’s also a revelation for a lot of people to hear about Pagan-Atheists, since we are usually all considered to be hardcore polytheists.

    Someday I’ll get around to writing that article about my experiences as a Pagan-Agnostic…

  2. Excellent post. I don’t see why you can’t be a Pagan Atheist. In fact, I started a group for Pagan Non-theism on Facebook once. I know quite a few Pagan Atheists and think it’s a completely valid position. I call myself a non-theist, because to me the Divine is an experience rather than a person. I’ve given up calling myself a Pagan because there are too many people using it to mean several things that I am not. But I was a happy Pagan Atheist for most of my time as a Pagan.

  3. Thank you for your post. I am 19 years old and still trying to figure out what exactly I believe in. When I first heard of Paganism it intrigued me greatly and I felt the practices I have heard of and what I have heard of their beliefs I do agree with. A part of me wanted to become a Pagan, but I felt stuck because if I am honest with myself, I do not believe in any sort of divine power/ god/ goddess. So I kind of gave up on that idea, because I can’t pretend to believe in something I don’t, and if I call myself a Pagan- Atheist everyone would just say that’s not possible and I am really neither one of those things. But I really love your argument, and it gave me more faith in pursuing being an Pagan- Atheist, if I can come to terms with scrutiny I may get for it.

    • Hi there, Sasha!

      Being nearly 32, and having been a Pagan of some stripe or another since I was 15, I can tell you this– if you have an open and questioning mind, you’re never going to finish figuring out what you believe. At least, that’s been the case for me. I’ve gone through some very distinct philosophical phases…who I am and what I believe was very different before I started reading the existentialists, for example. So, there’s no rush. You’ll probably be figuring out what you believe the rest of your life.

      Something I hope to be able to bring to light through this post and a few others in the future is that atheism has actually been an ever-present philosophical and cultural force in almost all the world religions. There have been atheistic philosophers who retain connections to their religions. Most people don’t know that the term “ground of being” actually comes from a Christian philosopher named Paul Tillich who is regarded by more than a few as being a pantheist or atheist.

      I honestly think that there is a general cultural surrounding modern Paganism that focuses way too much on “belief,” and I suspect it’s something that’s been picked up from living in cultures heavily steeped in Christianity. Christianity is a doctrinal religion– it is, fundamentally, defined by one’s committed belief to a series of ideas. Paganism has, for most of its life, been practical rather than doctrinal. That is, it’s about practice…about what you do. I think that a lot of new Pagan focus on what one believes rather than what one does has a lot to do with the fact that, with Abrahamic doctrinal religions all around most of us, we’ve grown used to the idea that religions are about what we believe.

      But, I think the tent’s a pretty big one. There were a lot of great atheists long before atheism took on its modern face. Plenty of them were Pagans. I’m joining them and seeing Paganism in terms of practice, experience, and culture.

      And I do get looked at funny from time to time (I’ll write more on that in another post, actually). You probably might, too. But, if that’s who you are, then it’s other people’s problems and not yours.

  4. Although I do not get to spend nearly enough time talking with either you or your wife, Rhett, I am reminded in posts like this one why I maintain such a profound respect for you – and such a feeling of solidarity, even spiritually speaking – despite some reasonably significant differences of opinion on ontological matters. Thanks for writing things like this and for being the man you are.

    • Mighty Hooper, I appreciate your remarks and the appreciation which gives rise to them. It is true that our “face time” has always been too short, and we’re going to need to find some way to correct that in the future.

      Of course, when it comes to reaching out between the theists and the atheists, I consider Camus’ remarks to the Dominicans, published in “The Unbeliever and Christians,” the model. I cannot truly say I can see a deity anywhere, but something I can see is evil. We are faced with it, and where we can agree we see evil, we have a duty to come together to stand against it or at least not add to it.

      On that front, I have never had any question where your heart lies, and I think it makes you a model human.


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